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Short School Days Once a Week - 7/23/2010 10:22:02 AM   
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http://www2.tbo.com/content/2010/jul/22/half-days-once-week-proposed-hillsborough-schools/life-education/

This is my local school district, we already have early release two days a month most months and it is crazy. I work part-time and I have to juggle two kids early release schedules as it is a weekly early release is crazy. I really think they should go back to a full day off once or twice a month because it is more effective of the kids and the teachers. Some teachers do not even plan lessons on these days they just pop in videos, or tell the kids to bring a book to read. The good/great teachers just do a shorter lesson like they are supposed to do but even they acknowledge that this is hard.

Our state requires that the schools feed the students lunch if they are in classes more than a certain number of hours. I believe this has to do with the federal free lunch dollars, do they have to add lunch time into the early release time and this even shortens instructional time more. They have to feed all the students in less time.

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RE: Short School Days Once a Week - 7/23/2010 7:49:37 PM   
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I am a teacher and I don't really understand this. And I doubt that this will result in more planning time for teachers, as administrators will probably fill the time with meetings. We tried a once a month all day planning thing at our school where they went to resource/enrichment type classes all day and the classroom teachers had planning. Our principal just scheduled a bunch of meetings, so it didn't help.

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RE: Short School Days Once a Week - 7/23/2010 8:26:42 PM   
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I also am a teacher. A half day is difficult, even for those of us who want to make good use of the instructional time. The kids come to school on those days with the mindset that they won't have to do any school work, so it is extremely hard to motivate them. And, yes, there are always some teachers that just pop in a video--which ultimately is a poor reflection on the administration for allowing that to happen.

In these days of budget cuts and financial difficulties, it would be more cost effective to have one entire day off a month instead of two half days simply because of the cost of running the buses. The expenses of running the buses for a half day are the same as for a whole day. Cut out one day a month, and the savings significantly add up over the course of the school year. Of course, that depends on the school county or district. Our county is in the country and the students are really spread out, with a lot of buses and many miles put on them every school day. Our superintendent has done away completely with half days. We either get an entire day off or no days at all off!

Depending on where you live, AprilShowers12, maybe you and a group of other parents could use the financial side of this as an argument to get things changed. I hope you realize how much influence parents can have. You can make a difference and get things changed for the better. But it does take numbers of parents, not just a few.

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RE: Short School Days Once a Week - 7/24/2010 4:12:08 AM   
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We have been doing this in our local district for over 13 years. We used to do just one hour and now it's 2 hours 10 mins. MWRF are longer days to compensate for the time. Then teachers get training and stuff or planning on Wednesday afternoons.

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RE: Short School Days Once a Week - 7/24/2010 9:13:12 AM   
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They are not going to have longer days to compensate for the shorter days because that would mean having to pay the teachers for more hours and they do not have the money to do that. The teachers are already WORKING the hours because they are still at school, to require more hours on the other 4 days for no additional pay would be unfair.

I really hope that parent feedback will make a difference there is already an outcry over it, but it did not matter when they went to the 2 short days a couple of years ago. The issue seems to be that the district received a huge grant and it requires the teachers to do a lot of paperwork and peer review. Now they have to figure out how to find the hours to do that. It seems silly to get the funds to have additonal instructional time, then have to do more paperwork that takes it away? I do feel for teachers and administration when it comes to all the redtape of the paperwork mountain.

Oh, and the meeting thing that is exactly what happens from what I hear from my teacher friends.

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RE: Short School Days Once a Week - 7/28/2010 10:43:13 PM   
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quote:

They are not going to have longer days to compensate for the shorter days because that would mean having to pay the teachers for more hours and they do not have the money to do that. The teachers are already WORKING the hours because they are still at school, to require more hours on the other 4 days for no additional pay would be unfair.


Aren't teachers usually salaried and not paid hourly??

I agree about half days being a complete waste of time.


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RE: Short School Days Once a Week - 7/28/2010 11:23:14 PM   
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This is my local school district, we already have early release two days a month most months and it is crazy. I work part-time and I have to juggle two kids early release schedules as it is a weekly early release is crazy.


With our kids school...we have many single-parent families....and a fair amount of both parents working full-time jobs. Thankfully, our school district is mindful of this, and keeps 1/2 days, and "days off" to an absolute minimum....

While my wife is a "full-time" stay at home mom, she can empathize with the working parents, as we live in an area that has a VERY VERY wide diversity of people from many socio-economic backgrounds.

A schedule like this would be a real challenge for those who must work during the day. (and, that is not taking the view that school is a "baby sitting service")....it's just reality AND necessity for many families.

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RE: Short School Days Once a Week - 7/29/2010 8:31:52 AM   
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When I lived in Hawaii we went to school Monday, Tuesday, Thursday and Friday until 2:00. Wednesdays we got out at 1:15 and every other month we would get out on Wednesday at 11:00.

I was shocked when I moved back to the mainland and the schedule was straight and no early days except special occasions.

Mind you this was 20 something years ago too...LOL

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RE: Short School Days Once a Week - 8/1/2010 9:17:23 PM   
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A couple neighboring districts just went to something like this as well. One district has scheduled late starts one Wednesday and then let out early one Friday a month. The other district has on their schedule to start 30 minutes late every Wednesday. I don't know how this is going to affect a couple of our teachers at our elementary as they have kids in the second district.

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RE: Short School Days Once a Week - 8/12/2010 11:59:12 AM   
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The school board scheduled a meeting at 4pm to get "parent input". There was little notice about the meeting and due to the time of day not many people could go. The reason people are against this seems to be two fold:

1. Since the shorter school days have been in place test scores have fallen.
2. The teachers are not actually gaining planning time, the fact is the county recieved a grant last year and part of the grant states that teachers have to be peer evaluated. The shorter school days are for peer evaluation time not teacher planning time in order to keep the grant. HOW DOES THIS help our kids?

Even some of the teachers who have paid attention to the facts are upset about this. What I would like to see is a full day off month so that teachers can really plan. If they lose the grant due to lack of peer evaluation because they have to teach, they lose the grant. It does seem to hurting more than helping at this point. To give money to the district and put this kind of strings on it is crazy.

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